If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. Miguel. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. GIF. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. Replying to @MHver3. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. Sign up“Called my source. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. AZ too. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. That is all. Likes. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. That’s it. There’s a catch. 1. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Could also mean ND is rethinking. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Look for a thread soon. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. Replying to. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. They know. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. 3 — is made for TV. It was $24. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. ”Log in. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. 11. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. MHver3 @MHver3. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. MHver3. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. Found. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. @MHver3. ” The latest tweets from @MHver3@MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. March 7th. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. 1 — and for No. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. 1 — and for No. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. 6. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 2. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 159. Houston and BYU applications are in. Log in. Corey Wishnia. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. 19. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. help. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. . 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. @MHver3. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. That was a guarantee. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. 1. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. ” March 7th. OMG I was wrong. Replying to @MHver3. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. Up to 75% would be streaming. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s all I’ve got. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. But not the question asked. MHver3 @MHver3. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. Retweets. Likes. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. 2. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. We currently get about $4m for that same content. @bobtrollsby. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. MHver3. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. 6. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. Sign upSee new Tweets. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. 7:34 PM · Jul. And they all already know the current numbers. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Amazon gets more first choice. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Replying to @Brewenor. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. yes they are extending his “deadline”. Previous offer for 24. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Yormark has a vision. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. @m_iguel_ca. In person. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ·. Retweets. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. 5% each. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. Log in. Also a high ranking member of. ”Log in. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. 9. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. Look for a thread soon. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. 3 — is made for TV. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. MHver3 @MHver3. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Replying to. ” MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. “@godawgs4 Not really. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. They are looking at 1. Their additions brought stability. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. @MHver3. Retweets. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. @MHver3. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. 13. that will be accurate. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Feb 21. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. I don’t hate the PAC. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Gonzaga is in for basketball. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. Quote Tweets. As did VT. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. That’s it. This happened sometime in the past few days. Huge mistake. At least for the next 6-8 years. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. Huskies have come back to the table. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. Boise is not completely off the table in football. AZ has and AZSU problem. The PAC show of unity tweet…. 2. 26. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Washington was their next choice. This is the “Tier1” package. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. 19. com. ”Log in. 13. 5m. MHver3 @MHver3. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. Likes. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. 251. ·. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Retweets. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. Likes. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. ”Log in. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’ve even called it that myself. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. and. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. Likes. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. @MHver3. 11. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. ”GK about to get shipped to China. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. @cwishn. ”Log in. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 2. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. 8 of them are. Retweets. 17. Retweets. “@BobOThomson Yes. 3. Factions have formed. Replying to @MHver3. All 3 tiers. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Would need to probably add 6. AZ has and AZSU problem. I actually don’t want more western schools. Jul 6, 2022. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Taking the four will crush the P12. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. That’s it. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Likes. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger.